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Nerve of the Hybrid Cell·1/14/2019in General
At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly)
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GogetaAutonomous Ultra Instinct (ability)Perfected Ultra InstinctDragon Ball Super: Broly
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Nerve of the Hybrid Cell·12/26/2020
Because this is a forum on a random site and not a gun to the head debate to decide the fate of humanity.
Well Zeno is at least high multiversal but I get what you mean. DBH has some crazy feats. I still wonder would a fusion be qualified enough to use UI because it has Goku in the fusion or would it be disqualified because it has Vegeta.
Nerve of the Hybrid Cell·12/27/2020
If it were Gohan or future trunks I would think they would still be able to use it, but vegeta has too much pride to let go
Chrome0X·12/27/2020
Heh Vegeta, a man after my own heart.
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MonzyMonz·12/27/2020
I can use canon to prove how Gogeta wins.
Kelfa reached a higher power level then UI Sign Goku, he still won due to his speed and the auto dodge.
Now, Kefla is a fused Caulifa and Kale. As we know, they are wayyy weaker then Goku and Vegeta, yet them fusing managed to challenge UI Sign Goku.
Now we know that the difference in UI and UI Sign isn’t something ridiculous like 5000x.
So if Gogeta fought UI Goku, his SSJG would be enough to beat UI Sign Goku and challenge Ultra Instinct, and his SSJB form would stomp.
Kelfa > UI Sign Goku (in terms of just power alone)
Goku and Vegeta >>>> Kale and Caulifa
So SSJG Gogeta > UI Sign Goku and SSJB Gogeta > UI Goku
Gogeta could still use SSJB Kaioken or Evolution and before anyone brings out “He would last 2 seconds” a second in anime can literally be a whole fight. 5 minutes in Namek lasted 19 episodes.
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Dystroyer554·3/8/2021
I'm very late to this argument but I just wanted to throw in some of my ideas and thoughts.
SDBH isn't cannon so I'm not including that in my reasonings and I'm using each character seen power level from when they were shown (as Broly movie takes place an unknown time after TOP, despite there probably not too much time between the two).
I know this point is stated quite often but Broly was said to be weaker than Beerus, and Jiren is said to be stronger than Beerus. That itself should be enough but some people refuse to accept it.
I will take into account that Gogeta Blue was smiling during the majority of the fight meaning that he wasn't at 100% power during their battle. I will assume it was around 60% to 70% power Gogeta was using.
Some people argue that only Goku's speed was increasing in MUI when fighting Jiren but thats why he won the fight, he was faster. So in its own way that is still a bonus to MUI.
Personaly I think that MUI Goku is stronger than Gogeta Blue as Jiren was stronger than Broly by a large amount and MUI would have the speed and reflex advantage without argue. Also MUI was shown to have a large development potential as the entirety of Goku using it he was getting stronger (or just faster if that's what you believe) at a higher rate than just being a saiyan would grant, This would most likely stay the same if he were to fight Gogeta Blue. So even if Gogeta had the power advantage at the start he would quickly be matched if not over-powered.
Personally I think that MUI Goku is stronger than Gogeta Blue to start with, neverminded MUI's growth rate.
Ia58619!·3/31/2021
Well, Goegta Blue has way higher multipliers, see it at least, MUI goku is maximum 100x srogner than kaiken x 20. But gogeta Blue has higher multipliers because of fusion, like base gogeta is stronger than ssblue goku and Vegeta, how ik. When they fought goku, gogeta in base stood a chance against broly, while in blue form goku and vegeta got stomped on. NOw if we updrage it to blue, its like a million-10 millionx multiplier, MUI GOKU gets STOMPED. But, Mui goku has been show to get stronger and balance with the opponet. LIke MUi goku might be weaker than an opponet, but soon its gets stronger, and stronger, and especiially when he's enraged it gets a bigger boost.But Gogeta BLue STOMMM MUI GOku, BUt MUI GOku is prob equal to gogeta ss2.
Woshipikaqiu·12/9/2021
Nerve of the Hybrid Cell·12/9/2021
In your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
What's in your head, in your head?
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie-ie, ohhhhhhh
JohnCenaNation·1/2/2022
The one that beat Fu in a fight and didn't get one-shotted should win.
