Grove Street (HD Universe) (2024)

Grove Street (HD Universe) (1)Spoiler Warning: Plot details, ending details, or both are in the text which follows.

Grove Street is a street in Grand Theft Auto V and Grand Theft Auto Online, located in Davis, South Los Santos.

Contents

  • 1 Description
  • 2 History
    • 2.1 Events of Grand Theft Auto Online in 2013
      • 2.1.1 Lowriders
    • 2.2 Events of Grand Theft Auto V
    • 2.3 Events of Grand Theft Auto Online
      • 2.3.1 After Hours
      • 2.3.2 Los Santos Tuners
  • 3 Mission Appearances
    • 3.1 Grand Theft Auto V
    • 3.2 Grand Theft Auto Online
      • 3.2.1 Survivals
      • 3.2.2 Lowriders
      • 3.2.3 After Hours
      • 3.2.4 Los Santos Tuners
  • 4 Businesses
  • 5 Collectibles
    • 5.1 Grand Theft Auto V
  • 6 Vehicles
  • 7 Influence
  • 8 Gallery
  • 9 Trivia
  • 10 Navigation

Description

Beginning at Davis Avenue in the northwest, with exits north to Brouge Avenue and an un-named northern street and ending in a cul-de-sac in the southeast, Grove Street is occupied by the Original Covenant Ballas. The street runs parallel to a section of the Los Santos Storm Drain, and is close to the Maze Bank Arena. A vehicle garage is located at the end of this street, which can be purchased by Franklin Clinton. The area is somewhat deprived and has high levels of crime activity, with police helicopters often seen patrolling the area from the sky.

History

Grove Street is one of only a couple of named streets retained from the 3D Universe rendition of Los Santos along with the iconic Vinewood Boulevard.

Contrary to the separation of the universe renditions, reference is made in Grand Theft Auto V to the street's prior appearance in the 3D Universe in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. According to Lamar Davis, most of the Grove Street Families OGs eventually moved on with their lives, and possibly became rich. Grove Street retains a legendary and almost mythical reputation among some residents of Los Santos, such as Jimmy De Santa, due to "events in the nineties" as Franklin Clinton puts it when hanging out with Jimmy. Ballas members may also be heard shouting "The Families were kicked out ages ago".

Events of Grand Theft Auto Online in 2013

Lowriders

At some point in mid-2013, Lamar Davis has a plan to cause a turf war between the Vagos and the Ballas, so he hires the GTA Online Protagonist and their associates to meet him at Benny's Original Motor Works. Once they are there, Lamar goes into more detail about his plan. Soon after, they are tasked with using a customized Moonbeam to drive to several gang turfs and clear them out of their respective gang, including some Ballas hanging around Grove Street.

Events of Grand Theft Auto V

In 2013, Trevor Philips, Franklin Clinton, Lamar Davis, and his dog Chop arrive at Grove Street to conduct a drug deal with a Ballas gangster. Trevor becomes suspicious and asks to inspect the other side of the cocaine brick, and the Balla refuses. Trevor ends up pulling the brick apart while struggling over it with the dealer and discovers that the brick was actually an ounce of cocaine packaged around with nearly a kilogram of drywall filler. A three-way firefight between Trevor, Franklin, Lamar, the Ballas and the LSPD ensues. Eventually, the trio manages to fight their way out of Grove Street and escape through the nearby river.

Events of Grand Theft Auto Online

After Hours

In 2018, after the GTA Online Protagonist acquires a Nightclub, English Dave will eventually call them stating that the club DJ's friends have been kidnapped. The player is required to travel to their location, which could be Grove Street, take out the Ballas and return the friends to the club.

Los Santos Tuners

By 2021, the GTA Online Protagonist is working with contracts alongside KDJ and Sessanta. In one of the contracts, The Prison Contract, Sessanta will tell them that they will need an inside man to identify the targets inside Bolingbroke Penitentiary for the client. Sessanta then tells the player to meet her cousin, Lil' Dee, who will agree to working for them once the player drives him to a gang hideout, which could be a Ballas hideout located in Grove Street, and eventually helps him escape or kills the pursuing gang members.

Mission Appearances

Grand Theft Auto V

Grand Theft Auto Online

Survivals

Lowriders

After Hours

Los Santos Tuners

Businesses

Collectibles

Grand Theft Auto V

  • A letter scrap can be found in the back garden of a house in the cul-de-sac.
  • An SMG can be found in the backyard of a house.

Vehicles

In GTA V and GTA Online, pre-modified Gang versions of the Manana, Peyote, Buccaneer and Tornado painted in Ballas colors can spawn parked at the end of the cul-de-sac, and will sometimes be entered and driven away when approached. Non-affiliated pre-modified versions of the same cars can spawn in a driveway further up the street on the south side.

Influence

Grove Street is most likely based on Spruce Street in Compton because of the cul-de-sac, the tree related name, the proximity to the city's river (in a separate location of the street), and that the Ballas occupy the area. In real-life, the Tree Top Piru set of the Bloods occupy the street.

Gallery

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The end of the street with a Ballas-modified Buccaneer.

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Grove Street. Background of the Friendly Neighbors page on the official game website.

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The Auto Fix Factory at the start of the street.

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A pre-modified Tornado spawning in a driveway.

Trivia

  • During the mission Hood Safari, when the player approaches Grove Street, three men on bicycles can be seen riding away. The man in the front is wearing clothes similar to Carl Johnson's default clothes. This is a reference to the mission Sweet & Kendl in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, in which CJ, Sweet, Smoke and Ryder escape the pursuing Ballas on bikes.
  • Although not meant to be a direct copy of the 3D Universe rendition, the HD Universe Grove Street does have some similarities:
    • Both end in cul-de-sacs.
    • Both are deep in gang territory.
    • Both are located adjacent to commercial areas.
    • Both are close to large stadiums.
    • Both are adjacent to the Los Santos River (a.k.a. Los Santos Storm Drain).

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FAQs

Grove Street (HD Universe)? ›

In GTA 5, Grove Street is located in Davis, South Los Santos.

Does Grove Street exist in GTA 5? ›

In GTA 5, Grove Street is located in Davis, South Los Santos.

Why is Grove Street not in GTA 5? ›

In Grand Theft Auto 5, Grove Street's former presence in the 3D Universe (in San Andreas) is mentioned. According to Franklin and Lamar, most of the Grove Street Families' OGs are either dead or have moved on with their lives, possibly becoming wealthy and living out the rest of their lives in some kind of suburb.

Is Grove Street Blood or Crip? ›

The Grove Street Families is based on the Crips, an African American street gang in South Central LA. They are one of the largest and most violent street gangs organizations in the United States.

What GTA games are in the HD universe? ›

HD Universe GTA Games in Order
  • Grand Theft Auto V Prologue.
  • Grand Theft Auto IV.
  • Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned.
  • Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony.
  • Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars.
  • Grand Theft Auto Online (before Gunrunning update)
  • Grand Theft Auto V.
  • Grand Theft Auto Online (after Gunrunning update)
Jan 12, 2022

Did Ballas take over Grove Street? ›

The Ballas didn't take over Grove Street in the 3D Universe, but they certainly did in the HD Universe. Rockstar chose to tell a different story with Grove Street. It's unknown whether or not CJ is a part of the HD Universe. Of course, his absence could explain a lot in GTA 5.

Where is Grove Street in IRL? ›

Grove Street and Ganton are set to resemble parts of the streets and homes in real life Compton, California. In GTA San Andreas, Grove Street is used throughout the game's storyline and is the location of the game's protagonist's safehouse, formerly his deceased mother's house.

Why does Grove Street hate Ballas? ›

Speculaiton is that it may have originated when drugs made their way to Los Santos. The Ballas began earning money selling drugs, while GSF leader "Sweet" refused to sell drugs, making Grove Street vulnerable. After the death of Beverly Johnson, her son CJ came returned from Liberty City and moved back to Los Santos.

What is Grove Street called in real life? ›

Grove Street is most likely based on Spruce Street in Compton because of the cul-de-sac, the tree related name, the proximity to the city's river (in a separate location of the street), and that the Ballas occupy the area. In real-life, the Tree Top Piru set of the Bloods occupy the street.

Is The Grove Street in San Andreas the same as GTA 5? ›

All that being said, it's a clear indication that the Grove Street seen in Grand Theft Auto 5 isn't the same as the one from San Andreas. The throwback, however, was a good nostalgic moment for fans of the franchise to return to a memorable location.

Are the ballas based off Bloods? ›

The Ballas are based on The Bloods, but their gang colors are based on The Grape Street Crips. If the player recruits a Ballas gang member after enabling the recruit anyone into your gang cheat and starts a gang war, the recruited Ballas gang member will instantly attack the player.

What is a la Crip? ›

Crips, street gang based in Los Angeles that is involved in various illegal activities, notably drug dealing, theft, extortion, and murder. The group, which is largely African American, is traditionally associated with the color blue. The Crips gained national attention for their bitter rivalry with the Bloods.

Are Crips only in LA? ›

The Crips is an alliance of street gangs that is based in the coastal regions of Southern California.
...
Crips.
Crips tattoos
Founded1969
Territory41 U.S. states, Canada and Belize
EthnicityAfrican American, Asian American, and Polynesian
Membership (est.)30,000–35,000
7 more rows

Which GTA game is realistic? ›

GTA 4 is one of the most underrated games in the Grand Theft Auto series. Released back in 2008, the game carries some interesting features that other games simply haven't touched. Its gameplay, AI, and other interactive elements feel far more realistic than most games of the current generation.

What GTA was most realistic? ›

GTA 4 was much more realistic when it comes to AI and physics. The reason the physics were much more realistic is because the game used Rockstar's RAGE Engine, which had very realistic physics. More effort was put into details like the physics and AI in 4, which is why it's a lot more realistic.

Is California mentioned in GTA? ›

California is mentioned in a GTA IV commercial for the in-game movie Dragon Brain. Arizona is referenced by congressman Thomas Stubbs in The Lost and Damned 's final mission "Get Lost".

Is Ballas one of the seven? ›

Ballas was a member of the Council of Seven, the judicial body in the Orokin Empire and an Executor, the highest caste next to the emperors themselves. He is the creator of the Warframes and responsible for having the project that would eventually create the Sentients approved.

Is it possible to join Ballas in GTA San Andreas? ›

The player must next drive to the East LS basketball court and speak with members of the Ballas gang. CJ is told by the Ballas that if he wants to join their gang, he must kill several GSF members.

Did Ryder join the Ballas? ›

Ryder is a high-ranking member of the Grove Street Families who later joined forces with the Ballas, Vagos and C.R.A.S.H..

Is Franklin related to CJ? ›

No, Franklin is not the son of CJ, as each game is set in alternate timelines according to Rockstar Games. However, the voice actor for Franklin, Shawn Fonteno, is the cousin of rapper, Young Maylay who voiced CJ.

Where is the hood in GTA 5? ›

Rockstar Games Forum Drive in Strawberry is a familiar spot for most GTA V players. Forum Drive in the Strawberry neighborhood could also be considered “the hood” and it doesn't hurt the area is basically down the road from Grove Street.

Why did Big Smoke joined Ballas? ›

From the beginning of the story, Big Smoke tried to persuade Sweet to get into the drug game but Sweet kept resisting because it was destroying communities. Because Smoke wanted the money so badly, he ditched the grove family for the ballas.

Why did Big Smoke betray Grove? ›

As he dies, CJ asks Smoke what made him flip up and he explains that he betrayed the gang because he finally saw an opportunity to become rich and famous, and took it without caring about the consequences; Smoke says that because of his greedy nature, he had no choice in the matter.

How did GSF lose Grove Street? ›

The Ballas started making money selling drugs while GSF leader "Sweet" refused to sell drugs, making Grove Street weaker. In the meantime, other two sets of the GSF, the Seville Boulevard Families and the Temple Drive Families split from the main gang, weakening the gang further.

What happened to CJ in GTA 5? ›

By the end of the game, CJ will have gotten most of San Andreas under the control of the Grove Street Families while also outliving his archenemy, the crooked Officer Tenpenny.

Who is the leader of Grove Street in GTA 5? ›

1 Sweet Johnson

At the beginning of the game, Sean "Sweet" Johnson is the leader of the Grove Street Families.

What is Grove Street Games new name? ›

War Drum Studios LLC, doing business as Grove Street Games since 2020, is an American video game developer based in Gainesville, Florida.
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Grove Street Games.
Trade nameWar Drum Studios (2007–2020) Grove Street Games (2020–present)
FoundersThomas Williamson Michael Owen
HeadquartersGainesville, Florida , US
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Why CJ left Los Santos? ›

After deciding that his life in Los Santos was unpromising, Carl cut his ties with everyone and moved to Liberty City, where he found work in stealing cars for Joey Leone.

Where is the most beautiful house in GTA San Andreas? ›

At $120,000, it is the most expensive safehouse in the game. It is based on the iconic Stahl House in Los Angeles. The location is labeled as Vinewood Hills Mansion on the official GTA San Andreas website.

What city is San Andreas supposed to be? ›

Carl's journey takes him across the fictional U.S. state of San Andreas, which is based on California and Nevada and encompasses three major cities: Los Santos (inspired by Los Angeles), San Fierro (San Francisco) and Las Venturas (Las Vegas).

Is there a leader of the Bloods? ›

There is no known national leader of the Bloods but individual Blood sets have a hierarchical leadership structure with identifiable levels of membership.

What city did Bloods come from? ›

Recent News. Bloods, street gang based in Los Angeles that is involved in drugs, theft, and murder, among other criminal activities. The predominately African American gang is traditionally associated with the color red. It is nationally known for its rivalry with the Crips.

Who founded Bloods in New York? ›

Omar Portee, also known as OG Mack (born c. 1969) is an American gang leader, known for founding the One Eight Trey Gangsters and United Blood Nation while serving time at Rikers Island.

What does 13 Crip mean? ›

Sureños use the number 13—which represents the thirteenth letter of the alphabet, the letter M—in order to mark their allegiance to the Mexican Mafia. Common Sureño gang markings and tattoos include, but are not limited to: Sur, XIII, X3, 13, Sur13, uno tres, trece and 3-dots.

Is Crip bad to say? ›

Because of these new usages of the terms cripple and crip, moving from descriptive to derogatory, cripple and crip are defined as dated and offensive terms. These terms have been used pejoratively as a negative term and an insult.

What is the Crip dance called? ›

The Crip Walk, also known as the C-Walk, is a dance move that was created in the 1970s by first generation Crip member Robert "Sugar Bear" Jackson, and has since spread worldwide.

Who is the leader of the Crips? ›

Stanley Tookie Williams III (December 29, 1953 – December 13, 2005) was an American gangster who co-founded and led the Crips gang in Los Angeles. He and Raymond Washington formed an alliance in 1971 that established the Crips as Los Angeles' first major African-American street gang.

What is the Crips main city? ›

The Crips and Bloods are the names used as an umbrella under which many Los Angeles African-American street gangs align themselves. When these gangs began dealing rock cocaine in Los Angeles rock houses, the large sums of money produced gave the gangs more power and influence than they had ever known.

Who are the Crips enemies? ›

Today, the Crips are one of the largest and most violent gangs, involved in murders, robberies, drug dealing and many other criminal pursuits. Crips identify with the color blue. Their biggest rivals are the Bloods and disrespect in many ways - calling them “slobs”.

What was the hardest GTA game? ›

San Andreas is a big game, so it will take a while to complete 100%. However, the crowning achievement of difficult missions is Supply Lines. For this reason alone, Zero is one of the most hated GTA characters in the series. It takes all the worst aspects of Vice City's Demolition Man and multiplies it tenfold.

What is the most hardest GTA game? ›

i find gta 4 and san andreas the most challenging out of all the gta games. to me gta 3 is fun but easy,vice city little tougher san andreas challenging liberty city stories and vice city stories are just a little bit more tough than than the first three.

What is the closest game to GTA 5? ›

Mafia III. If you ate up GTA V's plot and are looking for another open-world game with a similarly cinematic storyline, Mafia III is for you. I've played a lot of big, open-world action games over the last decade, and Mafia III is still one of the best.

Who is the most brutal GTA character? ›

Grand Theft Auto: 8 Most Ruthless Characters In The Series
  • 8 Officer Tenpenny.
  • 7 GTA Online Protagonist.
  • 6 Ricardo Diaz.
  • 5 Carl Johnson.
  • 4 Avery Duggan.
  • 3 Martin Madrazo.
  • 2 Niko Bellic.
  • 1 Trevor Philips.
Nov 16, 2022

Who is the smartest GTA character? ›

Grand Theft Auto: 6 Most Intelligent Main Characters In The Games
  1. 1 Tommy Vercetti (GTA: Vice City)
  2. 2 Michael De Santa (GTA V) ...
  3. 3 Victor Vance (GTA: Vice City Stories) ...
  4. 4 Trevor Phillips (GTA V) ...
  5. 5 Niko Bellic (GTA IV) ...
  6. 6 Franklin Clinton (GTA V) ...
Mar 8, 2023

Which GTA is like Scarface? ›

Both Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and Scarface are set in the '80s, a very special time. Equally as special is where the action goes down: Miami. While Scarface takes place in the real Miami, Vice City plays out in a fictional Miami-esque city, replete with sunny mornings and neon-lit evenings.

What is Carcer City based on? ›

Carcer City is an extreme caricature of a Rust Belt city, taking inspiration from places like Dayton Ohio, Camden, New Jersey; Flint and Detroit, Michigan; East St. Louis, Illinois; and Gary, Indiana.

What is Chicago called in GTA? ›

Carcer City has been featured in Rockstar titles before. Notably, it's the setting for Manhunt and serves as a combination of Detroit, New Jersey, St Louis and Chicago. It's also been referenced in multiple GTA games, although players could never visit the location themselves.

Is there a real life Vice City? ›

Setting. The game is set in 1986 in fictional Vice City, which is based heavily on the city of Miami.

Where is the Grove Street in GTA V? ›

Grove Street is present in Davis, Los Santos, which is in the southern part of Los Santos.

What is Grove Street in GTA 5? ›

Grove Street is a cul-de-sac located in the middle of Ganton in eastern Los Santos, and is the main base of operations for the Grove Street Families. Grove Street is the home of Sean "Sweet" Johnson and Carl "CJ" Johnson, the two leaders of the Grove Street Families.

Which GTA had Grove Street? ›

The home of the Grove Street Families is found in both Grand Theft Auto 5 and GTA: San Andreas, but GTA 5's version is missing some of the charm. Both Grand Theft Auto 5 and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas feature Grove Street, but GTA 5's version doesn't look quite like how long-time Grand Theft Auto fans remember.

Is CJ Franklin's dad? ›

There is no concrete evidence to suggest that GTA 5's Franklin is the son of CJ from GTA San Andreas. Regardless, many GTA 5 fans look up this question. CJ isn't present in GTA 5 (in an official capacity), and he doesn't have many similarities to Franklin.

How to join Grove Street? ›

To recruit an ally, you'll first have to find a member of the Grove Street Families patrolling the street. They'll be pretty easy to spot, as the street gang all wear green outfits. Once you find a potential recruit, lock onto them. Now, hit up on the D-pad / the G key to recruit them to your party.

Who owns Grove Street? ›

Thomas Williamson - Owner, CEO - Grove Street Games | LinkedIn.

Why is Grove Street so different in GTA V? ›

The street was also made to look quite similar to how it was in San Andreas. What's different from the game is the sheer amount of graffiti all over the street. The abundance of graffiti around led many to believe that the Ballas mobs eventually regained control from CJ.

Who lives in Grove Street in GTA 5? ›

The Grove Street Families is an African-American street gang and one of the oldest street gangs in Los Santos, San Andreas. They are also the native gang of protagonist Carl Johnson. They are the sworn enemy of the Ballas, an intense and ongoing rivalry as part of the Ballas-Grove Street War.

What is Ballas based on? ›

The Ballas are based on The Bloods, but their gang colors are based on The Grape Street Crips. If the player recruits a Ballas gang member after enabling the recruit anyone into your gang cheat and starts a gang war, the recruited Ballas gang member will instantly attack the player.

Who betrays Grove Street? ›

Most of the people suggest it stands for "a-two-timing motherf-cker", which is the reference of Big Smoke's betrayal of the Grove Street Families, and "a two-ton motherf-cker" which references to Big Smoke's weight.

Is CJ the leader of Grove Street? ›

In the game's storyline, Carl is depicted as the underboss of the Grove Street Families, a fictional street gang based in his home city of Los Santos, San Andreas (a fictional parody of Los Angeles, California).

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