How Much Scraping and Sanding is Really Necessary? (2024)

How Much Scraping and Sanding is Really Necessary? (1)

How Much Scraping and Sanding is Really Necessary? (2)

As a morning runner I spend a lot of time looking at houses and exterior paint and there is a home on my route that has had ladders outside for the last year. The owner is an acquaintance whom I know through my kids’ sports. When he began the project a year ago he had mentioned in passing that he was painting the exterior. Well, it appears that he has been scraping paint for 6 of the last 12 months. It doesn’t look like the house has any rotted wood that needs to be replaced or any structural issues, but it makes me wonder – how much paint is he going to scrape? How much paint do you need to scrape before you can begin priming and painting?

I took the question to my local Hirshfield’s manager, Grant Richards, and he gave me the following guidelines for prepping (and scraping!) exteriors:

  • How much scraping is enough? As a standard rule of thumb, when there isn’t any more flaking you’re in good shape. Remember, your paint is going to bond to the surface and if that surface is loose and flaky, then the new paint has nothing to cling to. Be sure that the surface is clear of loose paint chips and debris to get the best adhesion.
  • Do I need to sand after scraping? If you’ve done a good job of scraping away loose chips, most people will not be able to detect the edges of pre-existing paint on the surfaces. Certainly, various wood has unique qualities, but overall, you should not need to sand your exterior prior to painting. Another alternative to endless scraping is a product Grant recommends called “Peel Bond” by XIM. It’s an adhesive that goes on clear and bridges over the edges and essentially glues down the edge of pre-existing paint.
  • Do I have to apply a primer? If so, what kind? In the old days, this was a given. However, there are a number of new paints out there that are actually self-priming. Try products like Hirshfield’s Platinum exterior or Benjamin Moore’s Aura exterior. Both are self-priming and with a couple of coats you’ll be in good shape.
  • How late in the year can I paint my exterior? Grant tells me painters work on exteriors into early November. That said, we’re talking about weather in the upper Midwest, so you need to consider two things: Temperature and dew point. If temperatures are in the upper 30’s or 40 degree range it’s possible to paint exteriors, but to be safe, check with local painting professionals for their advice.
How Much Scraping and Sanding is Really Necessary? (2024)

FAQs

How Much Scraping and Sanding is Really Necessary? ›

So here's a primer on scraping and sanding – and not always needing primer. How much scraping is enough? As a rule of thumb, you can stop scraping when the surface is no longer flaking. Remember, the paint must bond to the surface, and if that surface is loose and flaky, then the new paint has nothing to cling to.

Do I need to sand after scraping? ›

Do I need to sand after scraping? If you've done a good job of scraping away loose chips, most people will not be able to detect the edges of pre-existing paint on the surfaces. Certainly, various wood has unique qualities, but overall, you should not need to sand your exterior prior to painting.

Is scraping better than sanding? ›

In short, scraping is an aesthetically pleasing activity, while sanding with a machine is a noisy, messy chore. Can you get smoothness with a scraper that is indistinguishable (after the finish is applied) from that of 220 sandpaper? The short answer is yes.

Do I need to scrape off old paint interior? ›

Not removing the previous paint from the wall's surface could create bumpy and uneven finishes that will only continue to build as you add more layers. When adding layers to a poor paint job, you accentuate those defects, making them more noticeable. Starting with a clean slate gives you a smooth and even foundation.

Can I just paint over old exterior paint? ›

If the existing paint is of the same type and the wall is in good condition, you can go ahead and paint without sanding. However, when it comes to wood, you may have to sand for proper adhesion. However, you can also skip the sanding process and make do with a primer.

What is the golden rule of sanding? ›

The golden rule of sanding is to start with a grit coarse enough to quickly remove surface imperfections and follow with incrementally finer grits.

Where does skin go after scraping it? ›

Surface skin cells migrate from one side of the wound to the other, covering the wound with cells to form the new skin. Depending on the injury, the site is left with a scar. Generally, scar tissue isn't as strong as undamaged skin.

Does scraping actually help? ›

Research indicates real benefits from 'scraping therapy,' like reducing chronic pain, headaches and stress.

What grit do you scuff sand with? ›

Choose a fine-grit sandpaper.

If you are scuffing bare wood, or another surface, in preparation for priming, painting, and/or staining, you will need something between P120 and P150. If you are scuffing between coats of paint or sealer, choose something between P180 and P220.

How much material does sanding remove? ›

As mentioned earlier, the amount of stock an abrasive can remove is dependent on grit size. A three-head sander can enable you to run a grit sequence of around 100-150-180 and eliminate around 1/32” of material in one pass.

How much old paint do I need to scrape off? ›

As a rule of thumb, you can stop scraping when the surface is no longer flaking. Remember, the paint must bond to the surface, and if that surface is loose and flaky, then the new paint has nothing to cling to. Be sure the surface is clear of loose paint chips and debris to get the best adhesion.

Do I just paint over old paint? ›

If the current wall is smooth, clean and covered with the same type of paint (both are oil-based for example), you can head straight for the paint. You need to fill holes, spackle and sand*, maybe even cut a new piece of drywall in to the existing wall.

Can you have too many layers of paint? ›

Paint will peel if walls weren't properly prepped before painting or if the walls were subject to a leak, high humidity, high temperatures, or too much sunlight. Paint can also peel if too many layers of paint are added to a wall.

How many coats of paint does the exterior of a house need? ›

Even if you can get away with one coat, two coats are better if you can afford it. Two coats of exterior paint will retain the color and sheen far better and longer, protecting your home more thoroughly and extending the time before the next repainting.

Can you use 10 year old exterior paint? ›

Latex-based paint can go bad, but it takes a while. You'll probably be able to keep it for up to ten years, with a few caveats. The biggest factor influencing latex paint's shelf life is if the can has ever been opened. If the paint is unused, you'll get more life from it.

What is the best exterior paint for old houses? ›

1. Satin/eggshell: Best for siding because it's a low-reflective finish that's good at hiding surface imperfections. It has a slight gloss, so it stays cleaner, is more easily washed, and stands up to abrasion better than flat or matte paints.

Do I need to sand after stripping? ›

Sanding may still be required:Paint strippers work well, but there are cases where you may end up spending a significant amount of time sanding after stripping to finish cleaning the wood surface.

Do I have to sand all the paint off wood? ›

For most projects, you only need to sand and scrape off loose, cracking, chipping, or peeling paint. However, all paint needs to be sanded off of wood that will be stained.

Do you have to scuff sand before painting? ›

In most cases, you will scuff sand a bare surface before applying anything, and sand again between coats of paint or sealer. Here is what you should look for: If you are scuffing bare wood, or another surface, in preparation for priming, painting, and/or staining, you will need something between P120 and P150.

Is it better to scrape or sand paint? ›

It's almost always better to strip than to sand. To begin with, except in cases where the old finish is flaking off, it's a lot more work to sand than to strip using a paint-and-varnish remover.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Twana Towne Ret

Last Updated:

Views: 6223

Rating: 4.3 / 5 (64 voted)

Reviews: 95% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Twana Towne Ret

Birthday: 1994-03-19

Address: Apt. 990 97439 Corwin Motorway, Port Eliseoburgh, NM 99144-2618

Phone: +5958753152963

Job: National Specialist

Hobby: Kayaking, Photography, Skydiving, Embroidery, Leather crafting, Orienteering, Cooking

Introduction: My name is Twana Towne Ret, I am a famous, talented, joyous, perfect, powerful, inquisitive, lovely person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.