ISRAELI CARRY: YAY OR NAY? (2024)

ISRAELI CARRY: YAY OR NAY? (1)

Posted on January 10, 2022 by Steven Moses in Uncategorized

“Israeli Carry” is a term commonly used when concealed carriers holster-carry their semi-automatic handguns with a loaded magazine and empty chamber. Advocates have stated that carrying a handgun in such a condition is safer because it lessens the chances that the carrier will experience an unintended discharge (often referred to as a “negligent” discharge).

I do not think this method of carry originated with the Israelis. W.E. Fairbain and E.A Sykes (authors of the book “Shooting to Live” published in 1942) were early proponents of carrying a semi-automatic pistol with a full magazine inserted into the pistol and empty chamber. Fairbain and Sykes played a significant role in training the Shanghai Municipal Police in the 1930’s as well as Allied troops during World War II, and from the best that I can tell it was common for both Allied and Axis troops to carry their pistols without a round in the chamber except for those times in which imminent action was possible or anticipated. It is possible that the reason this method of carry is often referred to as “Israeli Carry” is because initially the equipment that the newly formed Israeli Defense Force used was a hodge-podge of cast-off equipment from the armies on both sides in World War II. It makes sense that the Israelis may have standardized their handgun training at one time given the variety of handguns in their possession whose methods of operation might vary significantly. Not only does this method work with all semi-automatic pistols but it lessens the chance that an unintended discharge might occur if the user had not been well-trained in their use.

Is Israeli Carry recommended for concealed carry? My opinion is that it is not. Speed, surprise, and violence of action may be the only thing that a concealed carrier can effectively employ in order to protect themselves or their loved ones in the event they are attacked by another person who is intent on seriously injuring or killing them and has the means and opportunity to do so. I would like to see our students be able to consistently draw their handguns from concealment and hit a 3” by 5” inch card at fifteen feet in two seconds or less. The ability to do this along with some understanding on how to manage a dangerous encounter so that a sudden draw catches the attacker completely off-guard has a good chance of succeeding.

But what happens if I add a step and must now take the time to rack the slide with my support hand or by shoving the rear sight against my holster, belt, or even a tabletop? First, it takes up precious time that I might not have. Second, by adding one more step there is one more opportunity for a time-eating fumble. And third, what if my support hand is not free? It is entirely possible that I might need to first shove a loved one out of the line of fire or that I have become entangled with my attacker, and they have grabbed my wrist or I need to have that hand free to keep them from accessing a concealed weapon, being stabbed, or punched in the head and rendered unconscious. It is obvious that concealed carriers who carry their pistols this way will definitely need more time to get their concealed handgun from the holster into a position where they could make an accurate shot, and that extra time may be all that is needed for an armed criminal offender to overcome any initial surprise and then start shooting. A fact that I find sobering is that an armed criminal offender who does not care what he or she hits is capable of firing four rounds in my direction in about one second.

While I agree that if dropped on a hard surface, a pistol in Israeli Carry mode will not fire, the same is true for most modern-day good quality semi-automatic pistols. There are indeed some older handguns that do not have internal safeties that might fire if dropped on a hard surface. Concealed carriers might be well-served to do some research in order to ensure that their handgun has been deemed drop-safe.

Concealed carriers who believe that the reason that Israeli Carry is better for them is because they don’t trust themselves to carry a fully loaded handgun may need to ask themselves why. In many instances the solution is to simply get training from a professional instructor. A concealed carrier who knows and ALWAYS abides by the four rules of gun safety is not likely to have an inadvertent discharge. This is even more true when he or she knows how to physically handle handguns in a proper manner. I highly recommend seeking defensive handgun training from a qualified instructor as there is a world of difference between recreational shooting and carrying a concealed handgun because someday that tool may be needed to save our life.

Concealed carriers willing to take lessons and practice but who are still uncomfortable with carrying a handgun with a round in the chamber might take comfort in carrying a double-action/single-action pistol or double-action revolver instead of striker-fired pistol or single-action semi-automatic pistol equipped with an external safety. The longer and typically heavier initial trigger pull might be all that it takes for a concealed carrier to become comfortable with carrying a handgun with a chambered round. Regardless of the handgun type and action selected, it is strict adherence to firearm safety rules and proper gunhandling skills that prevent inadvertent discharges.

ISRAELI CARRY: YAY OR NAY? (2)

Steve Moses

Steve Moses has been a defensive firearms trainer for over 26 years and is a licensed Texas Personal Protection Officer with 7 years of experience performing as shift lead on a church security detail for a D/FW area metro-church. Steve is a co-owner and Director of Training for Palisade Training Group, LLC based in Dallas, Texas. Moses is a retired deputy constable and spent over 10 years on a multi-precinct Special Response Team. He owns multiple instructor certifications, including Rangemaster Advanced Handgun Instructor and Defensive Shotgun Instructor, Red Zone Knife Defense Instructor and Adaptive Striking Foundations Instructor, Modern Samurai Project Red Dot Sight Instructor, and State of Texas Personal Protection Officer Instructor. Steve holds a BJJ Brown Belt in Relson Gracie Jiu Jitsu. He is a content contributor for CCW Safe and writes weekly articles on various subjects of interest to concealed carriers. Moses shoots competitively and holds an IDPA Expert rating. Steve is an annual presenter at the Rangemaster Tactical Conference.

ISRAELI CARRY: YAY OR NAY? (2024)

FAQs

What does Israeli carry mean? ›

Israeli style carry refers to the practice of carrying a firearm with a fully loaded magazine inserted, but without a round chambered. This means that the gun is not ready to fire immediately; the user must manually chamber a round by racking the slide or bolt before the firearm can be discharged.

Why do Israelis carry without round in chamber? ›

Although it is slower than carrying with one in the chamber, the argument for Israeli carry is the emphasis of safety. However, it does require that the chambering/presentation motion be trained properly to ensure that a round is ready to fire when the weapon is aimed.

Is concealed carry legal in Israel? ›

Concealed carry licenses are more common in Israel and are available to individuals who can demonstrate a need for self-defense. These licenses require individuals to undergo training and pass a background check, similar to the requirements for obtaining a B license.

What is Israeli style pistol carry? ›

Israeli carry means carrying a handgun with a full magazine but no round in the chamber. One of the more common ways to carry a handgun in the 20th century, the Israeli carry method is still practiced today by beginners and those who feel it is safer than other methods.

Is it safe to carry a Glock with a round in the chamber? ›

If you are going to carry a striker fire platform like a Glock or a Smith and Wesson M&P, it is perfectly fine to carry with a round in the chamber as these are drop safe. A common misconception with these firearms is that they have no safeties.

What happens if you don't join Israeli army? ›

The so-called “conscientious objectors” say they do not want to be part of Israel's war on Gaza or the oppression of Palestinians on occupied land. But the refusal to conscribe comes at a cost – the risk of imprisonment and the condemnation from Israeli society.

Why do Israelis carry machine guns? ›

Spurred by fear and grief, and encouraged by some members of the national government, regular Israelis are taking up arms for personal protection in record numbers. Many Israelis now won't leave their homes without a weapon.

Are Israelis allowed to bear arms? ›

In Israel guns are strictly regulated yet widely available to law-abiding citizens who hold gun permits; gun control and tough punishment have made it difficult for criminals to acquire guns. There is no clear right to carry a gun in Israel. Nothing similar to the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution exists.

Can tourists carry guns in Israel? ›

The only place where a non-resident may carry a pistol in Israel is in a licensed gun range that is permitted under its operating license to admit “tourists.” Citizens own guns in Israel and Switzerland.

What country has the loosest gun laws? ›

Yemen's gun laws are highly non-restrictive, making it one of the countries with the easiest gun laws in the world. To own a gun, a license is not required; however, to carry a gun in urban areas, one needs a state-issued license.

Do people walk around with guns in Israel? ›

Yes. As many as 15–20% of adults between age 20 and 40 are still actively serving in the IDF reserves. During their reserve duty, they carry their service rifle. Every male in Israel must do 3 years of military service and females do 2 years, unless they qualify for an exception.

What gun does Mossad use? ›

22 LRS. The Beretta Model 70 and the functionally identical Model 71, both in . 22 LR, have served with great distinction as the signature terminator pistol of the Mossad, the premiere intelligence agency of the State of Israel.

What is the main gun of Israel? ›

Right now, the American M4 and the Israel Tavor (in various guises) are the primary weapons of the IDF.

How many Israeli citizens carry guns? ›

Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US. Usually citizens are allowed to hold a pistol and a limit of 50 bullets.

What are the 4 weapon conditions? ›

Condition 4: Chamber empty, no magazine in the gun, hammer down, safety on. Condition 3: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down, safety on. Condition 2: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down, safety on. Condition 1: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer co*cked, safety on.

Are you allowed to carry in Israel? ›

Compared with the U.S., Israel has relatively restrictive firearm laws. It also has a mandatory national military service requirement for citizens over age 18, and with few exceptions, guns are restricted to Israelis with weapons training or in security professions.

Should you carry with one in the chamber? ›

The answer is "yes." Milliseconds count. When the term “loaded” means a round in the chamber and you need to carry, either open carry or concealed, with an unloaded gun, training to be faster with your draw will be very important. Carrying this way isn't for everybody though.

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