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This article is about the character. For the mission, see Big Smoke (mission)

Respect has to be earned, Sweet - just like money.

— Big Smoke to Sweet Johnson in Drive-Thru.

Melvin Harris, better known as Big Smoke, is a character in the Grand Theft Auto series, appearing as a main character and the secondary antagonist of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Contents

  • 1 Biography
    • 1.1 Background
      • 1.1.1 Early life
      • 1.1.2 Joining the Ballas
    • 1.2 Events of GTA San Andreas
      • 1.2.1 Carl's Return
      • 1.2.2 Betrayal
      • 1.2.3 Rise to power
      • 1.2.4 Death
  • 2 Personality
  • 3 Vehicle
  • 4 Development
  • 5 Prominent Appearances in Missions
    • 5.1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
  • 6 Quotes
  • 7 Gallery
    • 7.1 Artworks
    • 7.2 In-game
  • 8 Trivia
  • 9 References
  • 10 Navigation

Biography

Big Smoke was a high-ranking member of the Grove Street Families who later defected to the Ballas, and made clandestine deals with the Los Santos Vagos and Russian Mafia, eventually becoming the most powerful crook in the criminal underworld of Los Santos.

Big Smoke makes multiple references to his desire to be remembered after his death.

Big Smoke appears to speak some Spanish, as seen in the mission Running Dog. He tries to get weed from some Vagos members and after being cursed at, he threatens one of the Vagos members who then responds with "Chinga a tu madre, pendejo" which roughly translates as "f*ck your mother, asshole".

His favorite radio station is Bounce FM.

Background

Early life

Big Smoke was born in Los Santos, likely in Ganton due to his close relationship with Sweet and Carl Johnson, and he later joined the Grove Street Families. He rose through the ranks of the gang until he became Sweet's right-hand man, Carl's departure in 1987 following his brother's death helped Smoke and Sweet develop a closer relationship.

Big Smoke quotes from the Bible on many occasions, hinting that he may be religious, though Carl claims he's "still talking sh*t."

Joining the Ballas

Big Smoke, sometime after Carl's departure, moved to Idlewood after buying a house with some money he claims his aunt left him in her will. The Grove Street Families, however, began to lose influence and status among the city's gangs, noticing that the Ballas, who controlled Idlewood, were selling drugs to fuel their rising influence. He then tries to persuade Sweet to allow the Grove Street Families to sell more potent drugs (since the Families already sell marijuana and PCP), although Sweet refuses because he believes crack cocaine has a destructive influence on the communities it is sold in.

At some point, Big Smoke forms a clandestine alliance with the Ballas and begins to cooperate with them. Smoke later includes the Los Santos Vagos and the Russian Mafia, who were hoping to get a foothold in Los Santos, into his new alliance. They also form an alliance with the Loco Syndicate, who began supplying them with various drugs from their base in San Fierro, although unbeknownst to the group, an undercover government agent is monitoring the operation.

Events of GTA San Andreas

Carl's Return

In 1992, after failing to convince Sweet, he goes to Ryder and convinces him to join forces with the Ballas, who later attempt to kill Sweet but fail, instead killing his mother. The death of Beverly Johnson leads to her son, Carl, returning from Liberty City, and Carl meets Smoke inside his childhood house. Smoke initially mistook Carl for a burglar, but immediately accepts the return of his old friend, contrary to Sweet, who remains initially hostile. It is not until later in the game that his true intentions with the Ballas-C.R.A.S.H. unit are revealed, but on several occasions prior to his exposure as a traitor, many subtle hints appear foreshadowing it.

Smoke appears alongside Carl, Sweet and Ryder at the funeral of several GSF members. However, during the mission, the attackers will only attack Carl and Sweet, avoiding Smoke and Ryder. He also appears playing basketball with Sweet in Tagging Up Turf, and also briefly appears in Cleaning the Hood at Sweet's house. In the mission Drive-Thru, Sweet, Carl, Smoke and Ryder decide to eat at Cluckin' Bell; however, they are attacked by Ballas whilst eating. Smoke's refusal to shoot at the Ballas (claiming that he would only shoot when he was done eating) was another hint to his betrayal.

After appearing in the introductory scene of Nines and AK's, Smoke later helped the gang in the mission Drive-By. After this, Smoke gives his own missions to Carl; the first is to collect OG Loc from Pershing Square police station as he has been paroled from prison. The next is to help Smoke eliminate a Vagos member. In the mission Wrong Side of the Tracks, before Smoke and Carl work to kill more Vagos, Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski are seen leaving Smoke's house; however, Smoke's comment that they are simply "nosey" hints that he is not so hostile towards them. Carl would then later assist Smoke in taking down Russian Mafia members in the mission Just Business, and Smoke would later assist Carl, Ryder and Sweet in the mission Reuniting the Families.

Betrayal

sh*t, Smoke...C.R.A.S.H. makin' you sell us out!

— Carl Johnson

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After Sweet explains to CJ that he is going to go to the Mulholland Intersection to ambush some Ballas members, Cesar Vialpando, the boyfriend of Sweet and Carl's sister Kendl and also a friend of Carl's, phones Carl and tells him that he must urgently come to an alleyway in Verdant Bluffs. Carl meets Cesar in the alleyway, where the duo witness Smoke and Ryder, along with C.R.A.S.H. officers Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski, and also some more Ballas members with the car used in the drive-by shooting that killed Beverly Johnson. Carl finally realises the true colours of Smoke and Ryder and how they are complicit in his mother's death, but he is unable to confront the alliance between the game's three antagonistic groups (C.R.A.S.H., Ballas, Smoke/Ryder) and is forced to go to Mulholland Intersection to save his brother from a Ballas ambush during a shootout. Sweet is injured during the shootout, but Carl is uninjured and continues fighting the Ballas. The police arrive and the duo are arrested, with Sweet taken to a prison hospital upstate and Carl to Angel Pine in Whetstone by Tenpenny, Pulaski and Jimmy Hernandez.

Rise to power

I made it, CJ! I'm a success. I can't be touched! I don't give a f*ck, f*ck the whole world.

— Big Smoke

In the absence of both Sweet and Carl, Smoke and Ryder disband the Grove Street Families, leaving Ganton and all other Grove Street territory in the hands of the Ballas. A few Grove Street Families members, meanwhile, begin working as drug smugglers, taking them from the Loco Syndicate factory in Doherty, San Fierro back to Los Santos. Cesar Vialpando, discovers this and alerts Carl Johnson, who stops a number of the suppliers from reaching Los Santos in order to disrupt the flow of drugs into the city. Carl and Cesar later photograph Ryder with three men, later identified as ji*zzy B., T-Bone Mendez and Mike Toreno. Carl, upon returning to his garage in San Fierro has Wu Zi Mu and his Triad allies discover more about the trio.

Carl then begins to work for ji*zzy B, attempting to gather more information on the operation, and later gains his trust. Carl, however, later kills ji*zzy, San Fierro Rifa leader T-Bone Mendez and undercover agent Mike Toreno (or so he thought) as well as Ryder, before destroying their drug manufacturing factory, stopping the supply back to Los Santos. Smoke, however, is undeterred and instead starts his manufacturing plant in East Los Santos. He also begins working as the manager of OG Loc, an aspiring rapper and childhood friend of both Smoke and Carl, who aided him by sabotaging the career of rap superstar Madd Dogg. He also attempts to style himself as a philanthropist when he is interviewed on West Coast Talk Radio (which can be heard on the radio any time after the mission Pier 69) saying that he is using his money to try and stop the sale of drugs in Los Santos, despite being the major drug baron of the city.

Big Smoke, like Ryder, continues to wear green clothing after his betrayal of the Grove Street Families becomes common knowledge. This is because Big Smoke and Ryder only have one coded outfit.

Death

I got caught up in the money, the power... I don't give a sh*t. Oh f*ck, man... I had no choice... I had to do it... I just see the opportunity. When I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name... Big Smoke!

— Big Smoke's last words

In the meantime, Carl is reunited with Toreno, who used a decoy on his scheduled departing flight, and begins working for him attacking those harming American interests. In return, Toreno has Sweet released from prison and the Johnson brothers return home, reclaiming Ganton for the Grove Street Families, who once again ally themselves with the formerly absent leaders. By this time, Smoke had undergone a personality shift; he had become increasingly paranoid, reclusive, hateful of the world around him and had a massive loss of self-esteem. He secluded himself in his drug manufacturing plant smoking crack, away from the massive riots engulfing the streets of Los Santos. Sweet and Carl continue their attack on the Ballas, retaking both Glen Park (in Beat Down on B Dup) and Idlewood (in Grove 4 Life).

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The Johnsons then decide to take down Big Smoke and his operation, using a SWAT Tank to break into his drug manufacturing plant. Carl then proceeds to shoot his way past the many Ballas, Los Santos Vagos, Russian Mafia and San Fierro Rifa goons in the factory to reach the top floor, where he finds Big Smoke. The two get involved in a gunfight, which is won by Carl, who manages to talk to Smoke about his betrayal before his death. Smoke, showing remorse for his actions, tells Carl that he "got caught up" in the money and power he was able to obtain. He reminds Carl that when he is dead, people "will remember his name" before dying from his injuries inflicted by Carl. Carl shows remorse for Smoke but is interrupted by Tenpenny. Carl flees the burning crack palace and chases Tenpenny. The story comes to an end when Tenpenny crashes the Fire Truck he is driving off the bridge over Grove Street, before dying of his injuries in the middle of Grove Street.

Personality

The streets is cold, dog. Like it says in the book, we are blessed and cursed.

— Big Smoke

Big Smoke is initially introduced into the game as a cheerful yet somewhat reckless friend of Carl. Unlike Sweet, who frequently scolded Carl for being a "busta" due to him leaving Los Santos and holding him responsible for the death of their brother, Big Smoke frequently comforts the grieving Carl and encourages him to work for the gang, even promising to find the people responsible for his mother's death, despite being responsible for the drive-by shooting that (albeit inadvertently) killed her.

Big Smoke occasionally finds himself at odds with the Los Santos Vagos due to their frequent dispute with the drug business (not revealed to the player until after his betrayal), and he often decided to confront them with Carl's assistance. Though his recklessness has occasionally placed him in a dangerous situation, such as when the drug deal with the Russian Mafia went awry and Carl had to save him during the ambush and subsequent chase.

Another notable trait of Big Smoke is his appetite. He occasionally orders and consumes an unhealthy amount of junk food to satisfy his hunger, causing the other Families members to quip about his weight, to which Smoke responded that he was just "more well-fed" and "big-boned" than the others, and that he "ain't never ate from a trash can." This behavior is often used as comic relief, especially during the mission Drive-Thru, in which Big Smoke places the now famous order from Cluckin' Bell and even steals Ryder's food during the chase with the Ballas, justifying his refusal to attack the Ballas as not wanting to spoil his food.

People have to open their eyes, and their hearts, CJ... I'm talking about the choices all men face, brother. Sometimes, they seem real, but other times there's no choice at all.

— Big Smoke

Big Smoke often portrays himself as a mentor of Carl. He uses a Bible quote to teach Carl to be "ice cold" and tells Carl to "remember me when you get to the top", to Carl's amusem*nt or irritation.

After Carl discovered Smoke's and Ryder's betrayals, Frank Tenpenny later revealed that he and C.R.A.S.H. were responsible for Smoke's betrayal, after he gives Smoke and Ryder "a lesson" and makes him "do what exactly he's told" from Tenpenny.

f*ck Tenpenny and f*ck his Polish lap dog, and f*ck the police, man. All that's old sh*t! Look at you, you got the whole world! I ain't got no regrets, man.

— Big Smoke

Following Carl's exile from Los Santos, Carl ventured around the state of San Andreas and became a highly successful individual. Big Smoke, meanwhile, became increasingly more reclusive and paranoid. He locked himself inside his drug factory surrounded by bodyguards and wore body armor at all times, claiming that "all crazy cats out there want a piece of me". When he confronts Carl for the final time, Smoke expressed his hatred for Tenpenny, his right-hand man, and the police. Smoke tells Carl he knows about his success and asks Carl why he wants to settle the score, even though Carl has "got the whole world" with him and that Smoke is forced to stay inside due to him feeling that "the whole world" is against him. Smoke showed no remorse for his decisions, describing himself as "a success" who "can't be touched".

After the gunfight, a dying Smoke began to feel remorse for his decisions. He confessed to Carl that he got "caught up in the money and the power" from his decisions. He claims that despite the fact he "had no choice" and "had to do it" because of Tenpenny's manipulation, he saw it as an "opportunity" to be remembered by everyone in Los Santos.

Sweet: “What's up with Smoke?”
Carl: “You know what's up with Smoke. He always saw things a little different than us.”
Kendl: “Smoke? Smoke was always on his own, always out for self.”
Carl and Kendl Johnson discussing Smoke's legacy to their older brother following Smoke and Tenpenny's death.

In the end, the legacy that Big Smoke wished everyone to "remember [his] name" by is a tainted one. Big Smoke is viewed by the Johnson siblings as a selfish individual who "saw things a little differently than us" and sought a chance to become a "celebrity" by any means necessary, even if it meant betraying his friends and the gang. Carl even offered to help Smoke fight Tenpenny back had he told him about Tenpenny's plans much earlier, but Smoke simply dismissed it to pursue his own ambitions to become the successful individual who leaves an everlasting impact, even if it cost him his "whole world" and led to his eventual demise.

Vehicle

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Big Smoke drove a blue Glendale with a white roof, which has the license plate A2TMFK. Opinions on the meaning of this are varied: Some believe it to be an acronym for "a two-timing motherf*cker", a reference to his betrayal of the Grove Street Families. Some believe it to be an acronym for "a two-ton motherf*cker", a reference to his weight, and some believe it to be a reference to the Cypress Hill song "A to the motherf*cking K", which was released in 1993 (one year after the events of GTA San Andreas).

He previously drove a black Perennial, until it was destroyed by the Ballas in a drive-by shooting.

Development

The beta version of Big Smoke is shown wearing a white Los Santos Saints jersey and black trousers, with Smoke having a bald head, which can be seen on the statue of Smoke in the drug manufacturing factory in East Los Santos. Or on the back of the PS2 case (Top, Middle) and also Sweet, and Ryder without his hat and his sunglasses.[2]

Prominent Appearances in Missions

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Quotes

  • "You picked the wrong house, fool!" - Big Smoke mistaking Carl for a burglar in Big Smoke.
  • "The streets is cold, Dog. Like it says in the book, we are blessed and cursed." - Big Smoke to Carl in Big Smoke.
  • "I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda." - Big Smoke when ordering meals in Drive-Thru, one of the other most memorable lines in the entire GTA series.
  • "I can't stand cold food. Unlike you, I ain't never ate from a trash can." - Big Smoke to others in Drive-Thru.
  • "Hey, kill that asshole! sh*t, this is a great sandwich!" - Big Smoke to others as he continues eating in Drive-Thru.
  • "Man, if you can eat your food, while everyone else is losing theirs and blaming you, you straight, homie!" - Big Smoke on the way back to his house in Drive-Thru.
  • "I admire you, Carl. You're a leader, a visionary. Remember me when you get to the top." - Big Smoke to Carl on their way to Emmet's in Nines and AK's.
  • "Cap your ass! And your ass! You want some too? Ice cold, baby! I knew I was the chosen one!" - Big Smoke when shooting at beer bottles in Nines and AK's.
  • "Damn, you a killer baby, ice cold! But remember something, real strength comes from within, my brother." - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson after shooting practice in Nines and AK's.
  • "People have to open their eyes, and their hearts, CJ... I'm talking about the choices all men face, brother. Sometimes, they seem real, but other times there's no choice at all." - Big Smoke to Carl on their way back in Nines and AK's.
  • "Everybody is my cousin!" - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson in Running Dog.
  • "Coughio up el weedo, before I blow your brains out all over the patio!" - Big Smoke to other Vagos members in Running Dog.
  • "The wise sheep does what he says, and only eats the greenest grass, while the foolish sheep gets eaten alive by the heathens." - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson on their way to Unity Station in Wrong Side of the Tracks. The line was omitted from the final game.
  • "All we had to do, was follow the damn train, CJ!" - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson if Wrong Side of the Tracks is failed, perhaps one of the most memorable lines throughout the entire GTA series.
  • "Yo, eh eh, don't ask a wise man, friend. Ask a fool." - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson after killing the Vagos members in Wrong Side of the Tracks.
  • "sh*t! That's gonna be a hell of a story to tell when we passin' the blunt!" - Big Smoke to others after their narrow escape in Reuniting the Families.
  • "Man f*ck Tenpenny and f*ck his Polish lap dog, and f*ck the police, man. All that's old sh*t. Look at you, you got the whole world. I ain't got no regrets, man. I made it, CJ! I'm a success. I can't be touched! I don't give a f*ck, f*ck the whole world." - Big Smoke to Carl Johnson in End of the Line, before getting involved in a shootout with him.
  • "I got caught up in the money, the power... I don't give a sh*t. Oh f*ck, man... I had no choice... I had to do it... I just see the opportunity. When I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name... Big Smoke!" - Big Smoke to Carl in End of the Line after the shootout, before drawing his last breath.

Gallery

Artworks

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Artwork of Big Smoke.

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Alternative artwork of Big Smoke depicting an unused model.

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Artwork of Big Smoke, Sweet and Ryder.

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Artwork of Big Smoke (in his beta clothing), Ryder and Sweet doing a drive by shooting.

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Artwork of Big Smoke (in his beta clothing), Ryder and Sweet doing a drive by shooting against the Ballas.

In-game

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The beta version of Smoke.

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The statued beta version of Smoke.

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Closer view of Smoke's statue.

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Big Smoke before the shootout in End of the Line in the Definitive Edition.

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Big Smoke after the shootout in End of the Line in the Definitive Edition.

Trivia

  • Sometimes, after Carl receives a haircut from Old Reece at Reece's Hair & Facial Studio, Reece can sometimes be heard asking Carl to "tell Big Smoke he needs a cut", despite the ironic fact that Smoke is bald; hence the reason he hasn't came for one. However, during the second mission "Ryder", it is implied by Ryder that Old Reece has Alzheimer's disease.
  • Big Smoke's Glendale has Bounce FM set as its default radio station and in the missions Nines and AK's, and the song Funky Worm by Ohio Players can be heard on the radio, implying that it could be his favorite radio station.
  • In the mission Drive-Thru, it is revealed that Big Smoke has tried going on a bread only diet.
  • Big Smoke is shown to have two large bullet holes in his armour following the shootout during End of the Line, regardless of how he is killed.
  • During his discussion of building an orphanage on WCTR, Smoke claims that he was an orphan himself. Whether this is true or not is unknown.

References

  1. First mentioned in Drive-Thru:

    Man, got some money from my aunt - i mean it's a nice place and all, but the Grove is in my heart, baby - it's where my dogs is at.

    — Big Smoke


    Dialogue in King in Exile implies that Smoke made up his aunt story to hide the fact that he bought the house with drug money he earned:

    Cesar: “Smoke, he's a pusher, man.”
    CJ: “No, no, not Smoke! He might mess with C.R.A.S.H., but he don't mess with no yay.”
    Kendl: “Come on, CJ, how you think he got that new house, huh?! Just let that Grove-for-life bullsh*t go and take a look around you.”
    CJ, Cesar and Kendl during King in Exile.

  2. Official PlayStation 2 Magazine AU July 2004
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Navigation

Navigation
[ ve ]Characters in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
ProtagonistCarl Johnson
Main
characters
Sean "Sweet" Johnson | Kendl Johnson | Frank Tenpenny† | Big Smoke (Melvin Harris)† | Wu Zi Mu | The Truth | Cesar Vialpando | Catalina† | Salvatore Leone† | Madd Dogg | Kent Paul | Eddie Pulaski† | Ken Rosenberg | Mike Toreno | Ryder (Lance Wilson)† | ji*zzy B.† | OG Loc (Jeffrey Cross) | T-Bone Mendez† | Guppy | Zero | Maccer
Minor
characters
Andre† |Benny† | Bettina | Berkley | Big Poppa† | Bogman | Claude | Construction Foreman† | Alan Crawford† | Derek | District Attorney | Dope | Dwaine | Emmet | Freddy† | Colonel Fuhrberger | Gal | Hazer | Janitor | Jimmy Hernandez† | Jethro | Jose | Kane† | Maria Latore | Ran Fa Li | Little Bill | Little Lion† | Little Weasel† | Mike | Su Xi Mu | Ralph Pendelbury† | Marco Forelli† | Mickey† | Old Reece | Jimmy Silverman | Johnny Sindacco† | The Snakehead† | The Triad Leader | Sunny | Big Bear (Barry Thorne) | Tony | Vagos gang members (Running Dog)† | B Dup (Mark Wayne) | Mr. Whittaker | Pizza Clerk | Preacher Bishop† | Rival Pimp† | Sweet's Girlfriend | The Dossier Carrier† | The Informant† | The Journalist† | The Reporter† | Unnamed Burger Shot Employee | Unnamed Crack whor* | Gasso Employee | Alan Crawford's Female Associate† | Mafia Goon 1 | Forelli Crime Family's pilot† | C.R.A.S.H. Rookies† | Cesar's Informant | Salvatore Leone's Bodyguard | Tim† | Tammy† | Loco Low Co. Mechanic | Driving School Tutor | Ammu-Nation Clerk
GirlfriendsDenise Robinson | Millie Perkins | Helena Wankstein | Katie Zhan | Michelle Cannes | Barbara Schternvart
Radio station characters
Radio DJsForth Right MC | The Funktipus | Julio G | Johnny Lawton | Mary-Beth Maybell | Phillip Michaels | Hans Oberlander | Johnny Parkinson | James Pedeaston | Marshall Peters | Mary Phillips | Peyton Phillips | Sage | Tommy Smith
Talk show hostsMarvin Trill | Christy MacIntyre | Maurice | James Pedeaston | Mary Phillips | Peyton Phillips | Derrick Thackery | Billy Dexter† | Lazlow
Talk show guestsAdam First | The Truth | Truck Driver | Emanuel | Julie | Hector | Rick | Vivian | Mill | Mike | 632369439 | Stewart | Kevin | Montag | Zero | ji*zzy B.† | Jack Howitzer | OG Loc | Cris Formage | Darius Fontaine
News broadcastingRichard Burns | Lianne Forget | Madd Dogg | Big Smoke
Radio guestsThe Truth | OG Loc (Jeffrey Cross) | Big Wayne | Darius Fontaine | Jenna Forbes | Cris Formage | Jack Howitzer | Michael Hunt | Jimmy | Fernando Martinez | Tim | Reed Tucker
Mentioned
characters
Mary Alexander | Mike Andrews | Big Devil† | Bobby | CM Pink | Joey Leone | Tommy Vercetti | James Earl Cash | Mary Ellen | Herbie | Ho Chi | Beverly Johnson† | Brian Johnson† | Carl Johnson's Father | Ah Ah Kung | LB | Little Devil† | General Mills | Tony† | Jezz Torrent | Avrindar
Other
characters
Fraser Ashley | Morgan August | G.M. Berlotti | Big Smilky | Dr. Diablo | Gern Blanston | Henry Bolt† | D. Claremont | John Craig | Mary Fortune | Frank Gold | Hammerfist | Philip K. Jones | Ed Karson | Turk Martin | Cluck Norris | Jane Pole | Brontosaurus Rex | Rochell'le | Jeremy Smith | Brian Van Ginsberg | Scott Wilson
Deleted
characters
Officer Carver | Larry | Poncho | Psycho
† denotes Deceased, Italics denotes a status determined by the player's choice
Characters in GTA San Andreas | Category:Characters in GTA San Andreas | Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas | Category:Characters
[ ve ]Grove Street Families (3D Universe)
LeaderSean "Sweet" Johnson
MembersCarl Johnson (underboss) | Big Smoke(lieutenant, formerly) | Ryder(lieutenant; formerly) | OG Loc | B Dup (formerly) | Big Bear | Emmet | Little Weasel(formerly) | Big Devil † | Little Devil † | Tony † | Dope
AssociatesPeople: Beverly Johnson † | Kendl Johnson | Cesar Vialpando | Denise Robinson | LB | Ran Fa Li | Wu Zi Mu
Gangs: San Fierro Triads | Varrios Los Aztecas
EnemiesPeople: Big Smoke † | Eddie Pulaski † | Frank Tenpenny † | Ryder † | Little Weasel
Gangs: Ballas | C.R.A.S.H. | Los Santos Vagos | Russian Mafia | San Fierro Rifa | Loco Syndicate
FrontsEmmet's | Johnson House | Sweet Johnson's House
TurfOwn Turf: Ganton | Playa del Seville | Santa Maria Beach | Temple
Acquirable Turf: East Beach | East Los Santos | Glen Park | Idlewood | Jefferson | Las Colinas | Los Flores | Verona Beach | Vinewood | Willowfield
SetsSeville Boulevard Families | Temple Drive Families
[ ve ]Ballas (3D Universe)
MembersKane · Little Weasel
AssociatesPeople: Mark "B Dup" Wayne · Frank Tenpenny · Eddie Pulaski · Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris · Lance "Ryder" Wilson
Gangs: Los Santos Vagos · Russian Mafia · C.R.A.S.H. (formerly) · Loco Syndicate (supplier; formerly) · San Fierro Rifa
EnemiesPeople: Sean "Sweet" Johnson · Carl "CJ" Johnson · Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris (formerly) · Lance "Ryder" Wilson (formerly)
Gangs: Grove Street Families · Los Santos Vagos · Varrios Los Aztecas
FrontsBig Smoke's Crack Palace · Crack Den
TurfIdlewood (formerly) · Glen Park (formerly) · Ganton (briefly; formerly) · Temple · Santa Maria Beach · East Los Santos · Jefferson · Playa del Seville · Verona Beach · Willowfield
SetsFront Yard Ballas · Rollin' Heights Ballas · Kilo Tray Ballas · Temple Drive Ballas
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FAQs

What was actually in Big Smoke's order? ›

Big smoke orders "2 Number 9's, a number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip, number 7, 2 number 45's, one with cheese, and a large soda." So what Big Smoke ordered for himself was a number 9 large, a number 7, 2 number 45's (one with cheese) and a large soda. This is still a ridiculous order.

What were Big Smoke's last words? ›

When I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name... Big Smoke! Note: Smoke has been shot to death by Carl Johnson, and says this line before dying when asked by Carl why he turned his back on the Grove Street Families.

What was Big Smoke's famous line? ›

"All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!" This is one of the most iconic quotes by Big Smoke in GTA San Andreas. During the Wrong Side of the Tracks mission, CJ has to ride a motorcycle and keep up with a train while he shoots at the Ballas.

What did Big Smoke say at the drive-thru? ›

Big Smoke : [at Cluckin' Bell, during the drive-thru mission] I'll have 2 number nines, a number nine large. A number six with extra dip. A number seven. Two number forty-fives, one with cheese, and a large soda.

Why did Big Smoke turn evil? ›

As he dies, CJ asks Smoke what made him flip up and he explains that he betrayed the gang because he finally saw an opportunity to become rich and famous, and took it without caring about the consequences; Smoke says that because of his greedy nature, he had no choice in the matter.

How CJ killed Big Smoke? ›

Carl then proceeds to shoot his way past the many Ballas, Los Santos Vagos, Russian Mafia and San Fierro Rifa goons in the factory to reach the top floor, where he finds Big Smoke. The two get involved in a gunfight, which is won by Carl, who manages to talk to Smoke about his betrayal before his death.

Who killed CJ's mom? ›

Death. In 1992, two Ballas members, under the orders of corrupt LSPD officers Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski, attempted a drive-by shooting at the Johnson house in order to kill Sweet. However, Sweet was not in the house, and Beverly was killed instead. Sweet ran into the house, only to discover his mother dead.

Who betrayed CJ? ›

Big Smoke betrayed CJ because he was greedy and ambitious. From the beginning of the story, Big Smoke tried to persuade Sweet to get into the drug game but Sweet kept resisting because it was destroying communities. Because Smoke wanted the money so badly, he ditched the grove family for the ballas.

Who is CJ based on? ›

CJ's physical appearance is modeled after Young Maylay. He said he was influenced by his own life when portraying the character: "I put Maylay on CJ.

What does Big Smoke say when he orders? ›

I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda. — Big Smoke when ordering his food, one of the most memorable lines throughout the entire GTA series. "Chicken with Dip", painting by Dale Shapiro.

Why was Big Smoke's order so long? ›

Big Smoke was ordering for everyone in the vehicle, plus himself because he was closest to the microphone. The rest of the order is intended for Big Smoke (which is still a lot of food as we see how the gang reacts).

Who is OG Loc in real life? ›

Jeffrey Cross, better known as OG Loc, is a supporting antagonist in the 2004 video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, the seventh installment of the Grand Theft Auto video game series. He was voiced by Jonathan Anderson.

Why does Big Smoke still wear green? ›

Big Smoke, like Ryder, continues to wear green clothing after his betrayal of the Grove Street Families becomes common knowledge. This is because Big Smoke and Ryder only have one coded outfit.

How much food was Big Smoke's order? ›

In actuality, he is only ordering a #9 large, a #7, and two #45s, and a large soda for himself. That's still a big order, but he's a big dude. Considering that he ordered the soda separately, probably means the meals are just the sandwich, maybe with fries. So he's just ordering at most 4 sandwiches.

What does Big Smoke stand for? ›

phrase UK and Australian English informal. any large city, especially London, Sydney, or Melbourne: He was a young lad of 16 when he first came to the big smoke.

What was Big Smoke's order at Mcdonald's? ›

Just to recap what Big Smoke's order was in GTA San Andreas: "I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda."

What is Cluckin Bell in real life? ›

Cluckin' Bell is most likely based on Taco Bell and KFC. Taco Bell uses a bell logo, KFC serves fried chicken, and both companies are owned by the same parent corporation.

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